I wish Intel would get their story straight…although they’re moving forward with their own wireless peripheral spec they still are developing Bluetooth technology.
Intel is trying to get into the cell phone market and are developing phones with wi-fi, bluetooth and GSM/GRPS connectivity.
One of the key developers of Bluetooth is shutting down the division that helped foster the personal area networking technology. Ericsson has already started to shut down its 125-worker Technology Licensing group and will reshuffle employees into other divisions, a representative confirmed Friday. A majority of the workers affected will remain with the company. Ericsson did not make a formal announcement of the closure.
No, more like normal evolution for these things. One or more companies develop a technology and offer it to the industry. If it flies more companies come online and participate in developement. If it goes far enough it goes to a standards committee and becomes codified like 802.11
The technology licensing group was a way to assure Bluetooth compliance by Ericsson. Now the specification is in the hands of the Bluetooth SIG.
Further advancements in Bluetooth technology will be made by the Special Interest Group, which consists of a number of companies with ties to the technology. Ericsson will remain a part of that group.
[quote author=“dbs”][quote author=“tifosiv122”]The death continues…
Erik
No, more like normal evolution for these things. One or more companies develop a technology and offer it to the industry. If it flies more companies come online and participate in developement. If it goes far enough it goes to a standards committee and becomes codified like 802.11
The technology licensing group was a way to assure Bluetooth compliance by Ericsson. Now the specification is in the hands of the Bluetooth SIG.
Further advancements in Bluetooth technology will be made by the Special Interest Group, which consists of a number of companies with ties to the technology. Ericsson will remain a part of that group.
Yeah but the fact that they closed their BT division doesn’t leave much room for developing more BT products…
[quote author=“tifosiv122”]I’ve been saying I don’t see the point of BT since it came out and that I thought it wasn’t going to be around a very long time…I might be right:
At the Intel Developer Forum on Wednesday Intel announced the company was giving up on the deadlocked Ultrawideband IEEE task group and going it alone with a derivative offering they are calling Wireless USB. This initiative, for them, does everything that Bluetooth does and, effectively means that for PCs Bluetooth is all but dead.
I am actually happy because I never saw a future in BT.
Erik
how come i can’t click the news link?
does it mean i have to return my recently ordered logitech desktop mx for bluetooth?
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Yeah but the fact that they closed their BT division doesn’t leave much room for developing more BT products…
Erik
The article states that they will continue to include bluetooth in their products through their mobile products division.
Following the links:
Ericsson’s decision comes as the Bluetooth standard has reached a mature state, and Bluetooth products are available in volume. “Even though large volumes are manufactured, we’ve found that the long-term business case for Ericsson Technology Licensing is not strong enough,” Akesson said.
It’s just a business decision. The evolution of BT is in the hands of an iindustry group and the big chipmakers have moved in. Ericsson would rather focus it’s efforts on other products than compete at the component level. They haven’t abandoned BT, they’ll still offer it in their products.
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Yeah but the fact that they closed their BT division doesn’t leave much room for developing more BT products…
Erik
The article states that they will continue to include bluetooth in their products through their mobile products division.
Following the links:
Ericsson’s decision comes as the Bluetooth standard has reached a mature state, and Bluetooth products are available in volume. “Even though large volumes are manufactured, we’ve found that the long-term business case for Ericsson Technology Licensing is not strong enough,” Akesson said.
It’s just a business decision. The evolution of BT is in the hands of an iindustry group and the big chipmakers have moved in. Ericsson would rather focus it’s efforts on other products than compete at the component level. They haven’t abandoned BT, they’ll still offer it in their products.
Exactly…what they have will still be included, but nothing new…yes they will have a group to ‘evolve’ BT as you put it, but thats not enough. If Ericsson believed they could do more from BT their section would remain open…Linksys is constantly working on new 802.11 products even though the standard is set…wifi radio, wifi cameras, etc…Ericsson all but gave up and is settling for what they have now.
[quote author=“tifosiv122”]Exactly…what they have will still be included, but nothing new…yes they will have a group to ‘evolve’ BT as you put it, but thats not enough. If Ericsson believed they could do more from BT their section would remain open…Linksys is constantly working on new 802.11 products even though the standard is set…wifi radio, wifi cameras, etc…Ericsson all but gave up and is settling for what they have now.
Erik
I’m not sure how that follows. Ericsson has specifically stated that they are working on new BT products. They’re no longer working on the standard itself. The division they are closing is about 80% R&D and the employees will be reabsorbed into the main company. Ericsson basically invented BT and is passing on the development of the standard to the BT SIG, which it is still significantly involved in.
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Exactly…what they have will still be included, but nothing new…yes they will have a group to ‘evolve’ BT as you put it, but thats not enough. If Ericsson believed they could do more from BT their section would remain open…Linksys is constantly working on new 802.11 products even though the standard is set…wifi radio, wifi cameras, etc…Ericsson all but gave up and is settling for what they have now.
Erik
Of course there will be new stuff, it will be coming out of the SIG. Ericsson will simply use the new chips in their products rather than design and build their own.
Outfits like Broadcom will produce chips to the standard. Widcom, whose software ships with most BT usb dongles and hubs will evolve. MS got real about BT with SP2 and I see both MS and Intel bowing to market and industry forces despite any pet projects.
I think Ericsson got what it wanted. Bluetooth was developed to provide features in their wireless products. Today there are few manufacturers of mobile devices that don’t offer or include BT in their product line. Now that it has a life of its own, Ericsson’s just getting back to business.
Interesting to note the promoting members are: Agere, Ericsson, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, Motorola, Nokia, and Toshiba. The associate members are too numerous to list here, but they include 3Com, Apple, Broadcom, Cannon, National Semiconductor, Sony, Seiko-Epson, Siemens and Texas Instruments. https://www.bluetooth.org/admin/bluetooth2/member_list.php?search=associate[/url]
[quote author=“tifosiv122”][quote author=“FastLaneJB”]I doubt Bluetooth will die anytime soon. Maybe it’s a little different in the US as Sony doesn’t seem to put Bluetooth into their laptops for you guys and your behind on your mobile phones a lot of the time too.
It is different in the US. I know that my cell phone carrier, Verizon, which is huge, only had 1 or 2 BT phones that I know of, ever. I can count the # of PCs that include BT on my hands and very few PDAs including Sony came with BT. In the US it seems to be a technology people never cared about.
Erik
yeah, but verizon has just about the worst phones in the business
[quote author=“dLo”][quote author=“tifosiv122”][quote author=“FastLaneJB”]I doubt Bluetooth will die anytime soon. Maybe it’s a little different in the US as Sony doesn’t seem to put Bluetooth into their laptops for you guys and your behind on your mobile phones a lot of the time too.
It is different in the US. I know that my cell phone carrier, Verizon, which is huge, only had 1 or 2 BT phones that I know of, ever. I can count the # of PCs that include BT on my hands and very few PDAs including Sony came with BT. In the US it seems to be a technology people never cared about.
Erik
yeah, but verizon has just about the worst phones in the business
Yes they do…and the highest prices for service as well…but arguably the best service available…so, you get what you pay for.
as a serial port for peripherals, I find it quite nice. but any data trasfer higher than that’ll be slow. i’m just hoping bt will replace RF (which RF has already replaced IR)
