You know what, Dennis? Do it. With “do it”, I mean: tell him he should send the notebook.
After that you will post one of his e-Mails and the “UPS e-Mail” here, with full headers. Tell us what your Mail Client is and we can tell you how to get all headers.
Then I will explain to you why he is a scammer. Of course you won’t pay, because there is no notebook. Oh, and, you can give him a false shipping address.
(If suddenly a notebook turns up at you door, you might reconsider the decision of not paying…)
I dont even know if I should bother with all that. If you guys say that he is a scammer, I tend to agree with you. I mean, I also notice the shadiness involved here. What are some of the possibilities that the “e-mail” from UPS could actually be?
[quote author=“Dennis”]That Luther guy emailed me back:
Dennis,
i will not use COD be cause i been scamed before .Please give me your sgipping address and i will shipp you the unit via Ups and i will ask them to send you a email and let you know that i have send you the unit.After you will recive the confirmation from Ups you will send the payment to me via MoneyGram.Please let me know if you agrry.
Thanks
What should I do?
So, UPS will send you an email and to determine if that is genuine, simply check the tracking # at the UPS website the same night. However, what’s inside that box is none of UPS’s business. So, UPS will send you a tracking # and then you’ll send him the payment…a few days later you’ll get a box…what will be inside that box??
Don’t bother with this person…if he doesn’t want to meet you, then his intentions are not good. Also, COD is a perfectly safe method cause once you make a UPS label with a COD amount specified on it, UPS must bring you back a check for that amount else I’m sure you have all the rights to get that money off UPS.
[quote author=“DayWalker1”]none. it is time for you to:
1) recosnider your budget
or
2) reconsider your purchase
or
3) just give up
everyone, even a 7 year old can copy and paste an ups mail and make a scammy looking website with stats, send it through the ups mailservers, since I can see them freely relaying as we speek… it could be a trap on their side, I have no time to check it up, but still, get a laptop you can afford, or raise the line, or wait for something decent to come up.
I’m gonna try to continue my search for a decent laptop. Even though I have a small budget, I really dont want to settle with something I’m not satasfied with.
[quote author=“Rahul”][quote author=“Dennis”]That Luther guy emailed me back:
Dennis,
i will not use COD be cause i been scamed before .Please give me your sgipping address and i will shipp you the unit via Ups and i will ask them to send you a email and let you know that i have send you the unit.After you will recive the confirmation from Ups you will send the payment to me via MoneyGram.Please let me know if you agrry.
Thanks
What should I do?
So, UPS will send you an email and to determine if that is genuine, simply check the tracking # at the UPS website the same night. However, what’s inside that box is none of UPS’s business. So, UPS will send you a tracking # and then you’ll send him the payment…a few days later you’ll get a box…what will be inside that box??
Don’t bother with this person…if he doesn’t want to meet you, then his intentions are not good. Also, COD is a perfectly safe method cause once you make a UPS label with a COD amount specified on it, UPS must bring you back a check for that amount else I’m sure you have all the rights to get that money off UPS.
Yea, I was thinking the same. The box could just be filled with 4 Lbs of dog sh*t.
OK, as an individual who has (personally) seen the depths to which people will go to screw money out of other people, I would warn you that if in exchange for a tracking number that can be for a brick in a box, a copy of a Money Gram transfer confirmation could be turned into your instructions to a “change of name” or other authority to realse that cash.
YOU HAVE LITTLE PROTECTION. And if they use it, how are you going to prove the “fraud” without being without the cash and a lawyers bill over an extended time. At least if you deal with Amex, Visa, BankOfAmerica etc they have the substance and ability to “put it right” and then sort it out.
There was a statement in an earlier post where you said:
“yea, it does to me also, but how can i get screwed? Im sending the moneygram to someone i know, and when the package arrives, im changing the receivers name to his (even though i dont really know how to do that) and then im sending it over to him”
But you see he just need you to send him that piece of paper and the cash is HIS. Do not underestimate what can be done with the information - maybe a cover sheet that says “I authorize you to release the cash to….....”
The simple answer is swap your cash for the goods in the same place and timeframe.
I suspect that this individaul is not a true USA resident or citizen. The language in the emaisl suggests they are culturally different.
[quote author=“DayWalker”]
Not everybody can afford a BMW ... but everybody wants a BMW…
nooooo…. I want a Mercedes
Hey Dennis, he’s right… unless u wanna go steal a TR… at this point, it doesn’t look like your gonna be getting one. Maybe you could go the Dell 700m route or just wait for a little bit. After Christmas, prices (and don’t quote me on this ) should die down a little bit and you may find one since things won’t be in as high of demand. Patience… I kno, I’m not one to speak as most of my purchases are spontaneous, but you really have to be patient. When I rush things, 99% of the time, I’m dissatisfied… wouldn’t you rather wait a little while and be happy for a longtime than vice versa? :?
[quote author=“DayWalker”]but everybody wants a BMW…
too good of a deal is no deal, it is a scam in 99.99% of the time.
Eww…no thank you.
But yeah your right, it’s a scam, it’s pretty clear of that. They are just itching for you to send the money first, then you’ll never see anything back.
The scam works both ways…they try to buy your notebook, send you an e-check that bounces after you already shipped the notebook.
Erik
EDIT: OnMyWayUp - My boy….BMW = Wanted Mercedes Benz.
Here is my advice, get something that will do the job, has some value it it and will keep its some of its value until you decide to change it.
Not everybody can afford a BMW ... but everybody wants a BMW…
too good of a deal is no deal, it is a scam in 99.99% of the time.
I absoloutly agree with you, I’m one of the biggest advocates of that type of reasoning. However, ff I had lets say $1000 to drop on a laptop, and i see a TR1 for like 1200, even though i know i really cant afford it, and I would have to break the bank to get it, I’m gonna get it anyways. I’m very strange like that. Like, my reasoning would say that instead of getting a 3 series bmw for like 25k, if i was to drop only 15 more, I could get a used M5. The only problem is, 15k is alot of money… :|