[quote author=“tifosiv122”][quote author=“Chris687”]Look at the x505 and all the techology they left out of that…Like wifi and bluetooth…

So when you get down to loosing the extra weight…I guess everything counts..

Well, it has WiFi, just not internal. I am surprised about BT considering how small the BT module is, there must have been a reason for it…I haven’t figured it out myself just yet.

Erik

I know it has wifi…But its external…So when the advertise the weight of the x505 they can minus that out…its spliting hairs but I think thats might what they were trying to do…

gameson

dont just wait for the dothan 2 mb 1.2 ghz ulv. wait for the whole package, that processor + alviso + 2915 a/b/g, then buy. that’s what i m doing now, wait for total package

Yes all of this suff is great, but how will the alviso be able to fit into the TR or rather upgraded into it?

Alviso is basically our next-generation chipset.

From Intel site.
 

As far as i know, the chipsets cannot be changed on laptop motherboards.  Are they going to release a new motherboard for the TR that has this new tech and will the wireless upgrade be all that different from EM-500AG?

If all of this can be integrated into the TR i will definitely be in line to do it.  I guess i will be waiting for the review from gameson or whoever does the mod first.

As far as I know, the Dothan 733 ULV chip is plug n play. You could put one in any TR;  but it probably would not be supported by the BIOS and would be stuck at 600MHZ;which is ok with me as I run it at the lower limit.

It is a new generation chip even though it still is clocked the same (  increase, but the power boost may be subtle in other ways)

Also, since the die is smaller there may be less heat with the Dothans. I am using a notebook with the Dothan ULV and it’s pretty cool running. But I never used the Banias version of this unit so I can’t make a comparison.

I’d like to put the Dothan in my TR1. I would imagine it’s socketed as I think they all are now (I may be wrong)

Does anyone know if these CPU’s are socketed?

That is good to know that the chips are plug and play, but having them run at only 600mhz is a problem.  I am sure there will be a way to get around this problem, but depending on how easy it is, upgrading the chip may not be worth the trouble.

I had hoped that upgrading to a dothan would somewhat straight-forward.

I’m hoping for a few other players to stir things up, but it will be interesting to see what Sony and Fujitsu come out with. I wonder if Sony will continue the T series or orphan it. They often seem to have a PT Barnum attitude toward consumers.

[quote author=“dbs”]They often seem to have a PT Barnum attitude toward consumers.

I read an article the other day that had an interview with the Vaio product marketing GM talking about the business-oriented B-series. He said that most of their consumer notebooks get updated every 16 weeks, but the B would be updated every 6 months to a year. They were hoping to get the cycle up to 18 months.

I’d love to think that it’s just a case of corporate ADD, but I’m way to cynical.

[quote author=“tifosiv122”][quote author=“grisjuan”]I was pretty surprised that the Sony T came out when it did with the old stuff instead of launching with the new bits in January.

Most of us were surprised when the T was mostly a re-badged TR…

I am very interested in seeing what comes out after the new year.

Erik

The TA, TB, TC…then T1, T2, T3… 

[quote author=“OnMyWayUp”][quote author=“tifosiv122”][quote author=“grisjuan”]I was pretty surprised that the Sony T came out when it did with the old stuff instead of launching with the new bits in January.

Most of us were surprised when the T was mostly a re-badged TR…

I am very interested in seeing what comes out after the new year.

Erik

The TA, TB, TC…then T1, T2, T3… 

I’m hoping for Tx or they could do something fancy like VAIO Type T Mark II! Or VAIO Type Nu-T. Or VAIO Type Ex-T. Or VAIO Type Zeta T. Ok, I need to stop watching Gundam video clips… :wink:

[quote author=“Drachen”][quote author=“dbs”]They often seem to have a PT Barnum attitude toward consumers.

I read an article the other day that had an interview with the Vaio product marketing GM talking about the business-oriented B-series. He said that most of their consumer notebooks get updated every 16 weeks, but the B would be updated every 6 months to a year. They were hoping to get the cycle up to 18 months.

I’d love to think that it’s just a case of corporate ADD, but I’m way to cynical.

With Sony cynicism comes easy.

A 16 week update cycle is nuts. It’s like the T was released just because “something” had to be released. I guess it’s part and parcel with the consumer “bigger, better, faster” squirrel cage.

I think my antique TR3 and I can get along fine for another year or so. For my mobile needs a slightly faster processor, bigger drive and DVD write are dubious upgrades.  For now I’ll hold out for thinner, lighter and longer battery life.

Well so im thinking, would the TR support all ULV based processors ? What other ULV processors exist ? Is there only a 900, 1.0 and 1.1 ULV or anything above that like an 1.4 ULV.

[quote author=“dbs”]I think my antique TR3 and I can get along fine for another year or so. For my mobile needs a slightly faster processor, bigger drive and DVD write are dubious upgrades.  For now I’ll hold out for thinner, lighter and longer battery life.

I have the even older TR1 model with the smaller HD and 900MHz CPU and I’ve owned my machine for well over a year. The way things are going, I intend to keep it for another year or more. It does what I need it to do. I’m trying to think of features that would make me want to trade up and at this point, I’m drawing a blank.

[quote author=“writetovarun”]Well so im thinking, would the TR support all ULV based processors ? What other ULV processors exist ? Is there only a 900, 1.0 and 1.1 ULV or anything above that like an 1.4 ULV.

From what’s been said on this forum, the CPU is soldered to the socket. There is no 1.4 GHz ULV chip, it’s a higher-power LV chip. (10W and 1.11V vs 5W and 0.94V)

[quote author=“Drachen”][quote author=“dbs”]I think my antique TR3 and I can get along fine for another year or so. For my mobile needs a slightly faster processor, bigger drive and DVD write are dubious upgrades.  For now I’ll hold out for thinner, lighter and longer battery life.

I have the even older TR1 model with the smaller HD and 900MHz CPU and I’ve owned my machine for well over a year. The way things are going, I intend to keep it for another year or more. It does what I need it to do. I’m trying to think of features that would make me want to trade up and at this point, I’m drawing a blank.

I’m with you. It will take a significant improvement in performance and weight to really get my attention. Who knows, it might even happen before my 3 year warantee runs out.