Okay, so the TR gives out a VERY weak bass signal in normal volume mode. When you up the bass with either Windows or Sony’s bass boost slider (they do the same), it becomes MUCH better. But then the retarded volume limiter kicks in. WHY DOES IT DO THIS? I don’t want it. If I thought a constant volume was too loud for my ears, I will turn it down myself. Now I have a fluctuating volume level that makes my songs sound like a monkey got ahold of the mixing board.
How can I disable this P.O.S. sony volume control system? I just want decent bass without the fluctuating volume. It’s annoying.
dLo, my ears are probally older than urs based on ur pic but i use the iTunes eq, the TR volume maxed, and all the other laptop crap turned off and things sound great. i dont know what u mean about POS or flucuations in volume, how could that be?
jigs
It’s not the software that’s a POS but it’s the speakers themselves.
Forget about using the built-in speakers, plug it up to some external speakers or use headsets.
It’s not the software that’s a POS but it’s the speakers themselves.
Forget about using the built-in speakers, plug it up to some external speakers or use headsets.
[quote author=“jiggy”]dLo, my ears are probally older than urs based on ur pic but i use the iTunes eq, the TR volume maxed, and all the other laptop crap turned off and things sound great. i dont know what u mean about POS or flucuations in volume, how could that be?
jigs
if you go to volume, and advanced under max and turn the bass up, listen to a song and you can tell. the music will go softer when there’s more bass, and louder once the bass disappears.
it happens regardless of output device, but only when you mess with those two bass / treble sliders. however, those sliders are in most sound cards’ drivers on other window’s systems (like my desktop) and they don’t do that, and I posted a long time ago (maybe on the old skool yahoo! TR forums.. EDIT: here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sony_tr1/message/243 ) asking about this problem and someone pointed out that the sony software does it.
plugging my headphones into the jack and relying simply on winamp to boost the bass does little for effect when you can hear the potential of the bass boost that the drivers provide, but at the cost of having the volume fluctuation.
is there any way i can get better bass quality without the bass boost (as that is what causes the volume fluctuation)? because the bass quality without this boost is absolute crap (i have GOOD headphones), and with it on you get fluctuation. it’s like a lose lose situtation.
[quote author=“dLo”]plugging my headphones into the jack and relying simply on winamp to boost the bass does little for effect when you can hear the potential of the bass boost that the drivers provide, but at the cost of having the volume fluctuation.
is the volume fluctuating? like up and down randomly like there is a monkey at the controls? i don’t think so, it’s just being manipulated/distorted/inshort fu#@%@ up by Sony Bass Boost. try iTunes and just play the stuff straight into that. u may be pleased.
i’ve always shyed from bass boosting schemes, as i don’t understand what it does and i don’t really like it. but then again i don’t use headphones on the laptop very often, just run it thru my home stereo that has a real eq (whatever that is). if i am on the go, i use the iPod.
for dvds in hotel rooms, it seems like cyberlink powerDVD has enough crazy audio schemes going to make it all sound great.
anyway, i am sure this is not helping so i’ll shut up now. cheers,
jig
[quote author=“jiggy”]ps. are us sure u have good head phones? i use sony ex71’s and love them. the apple ipod ones are junk.
yeah, V600s are studio headphones and are about half the size of my head. they are in the $100-150 price range (i got em cheaper).
anyway, yeah without the bass boost i have no bass because winamp can only output so much and the headphones don’t have any external equalizing source. sigh. i just need to find a way to get around this crappy sony driver
oooh those are nice, we use them at the studio cause we are on a budget. good luck trying to get around the sony driver on a sony laptop… where are all the audiophiles here? on the mac?
I’ve encountered the “volume limiter” too when watching DVDs through the included player application. It will (seemingly) randomly limit/lower the volume in the movie when I have the volume maxed out (a requirement when listening to ear buds on an airplane). Anyone know how to turn this feature off?
In my initial investigation, I get “volume fluctuations” on a part of the song where bass is prevalent. The excess bass seem to attenuate the vocals. :arrow: This problem may be due to the low quality settings from which the song was initally recorded.
You can convert a CD recording to an mp3 file at high quality or low quality settings. A typical song is about 3-4MB at low quality settings. When recording at a low quality level, the “volume” of the vocals may have somehow been lowered to “adjust” for the extra bass. So the problem may be that the song was converted at a low mp3 quality setting.
:idea: To test this hypothesis, you should listen and compare songs before and after its conversion to the mp3 format. :idea: Try to convert a song at low and high quality settings and see if there are any differences. There are a lot of conversion tools out there on the net. I use Cool Edit Pro.
Hope this helps,
GoatCamel
PS, make sure you have Auto Volume Leveling turned off in your Windows Media Player.
The TR uses some kind of cheap AC97 audio chip, doesn’t it? Perhaps the real solution is to get a better sound card that can handle the load of big speakers/headphones. You can go the external route, but one of Echo Audio’s Indigo cards might be better.
