Ha…seriously, the TR is still an outstanding device and really not all that far from these newer models in terms of abilities and style.

It probably looks less “slick” than the newer stuff but it’s still quite the powerful little system. I like the fact that I “could” stick 2GB of RAM into it, and it will still be a very serviceable system.

Of course, I may just be saying that because I still own it and am justifying to myself why I shouldn’t buy a new one… :wink:

[quote author=“Anonymous”]dont you always find the people who own the out going model, always write messages on boards like this, trying to convice *themselves* that they dont want to upgrade. trying to find as many reasons as possible that the older less advanced soon to be obsolete model is better than the new version!

look at any board…. mobile phones, digital cameras, mp3 players….happens on them all

:D

This is a blanket statement. I own a TR as well. The jump from the TR to the T was huge. The drive size, the dual layer dvd, the edge, the thinner profile, the longer battery, the less scratchy surface, the BETTER keyboard, the built-in BT, the Dohan CPU were just several nice changes from the TR to the T.

Not to mention that I’ve paid only 1500$ for my T350 compared to the 3G for my TR. Once the T’s drop to 1500-1600$ they will be better bang for your back compared to the TX. But heydo whatever you have to do. Personally I think that Sony dropped the ball, once they’ve started to release more models of the same series with less general difference in between the models. Now we don’t see major changes between the whole series. The Ts and the TXs are not different. The fancy casing is the only major differnece.

Just a question…what parts of the TX are below what the T offers? I am not talking subjective…part for part, is there anything that you can point to that the T had and the TX does not reach?

Erik

Just a question…what parts of the TX are below what the T offers? I am not talking subjective…part for part, is there anything that you can point to that the T had and the TX does not reach?

Erik

Apart from noticeable stuff like size, weight…

Screen: 11.1” (TX) vs. 10.6” (T)

The nearly half an inch increase makes a difference. I’m sure most people wished it was 12” but this is a major advance in notebooks of this size since everyone else is using a 10.6” LCD. The new LED backlight should increase battery…no word on the quality compared to current X-Brite.

Resolution: 1366x768 (TX) vs. 1280x768 (T)

The new size allows for more pixels and a truer widescreen picture.

Chipset: 915GMS (TX) vs. 855GME (T)

The new chipset brings supposedly lower power requirements (allegedly but not really the case), better memory performance, HD Audio support, etc.

Memory: Officially up to 1.5GB DDR2 (TX) vs. 1GB DDR (T)

We all know these are artificial limitations with both chipsets supporting up to 2GB of memory.

Graphics: GMA 900 (TX) vs. Intel Extreme Graphics 2 (T)

DirectX 9 vs. DirectX 7/8 support. The GMA900 is roughly at least twice as fast as the previous generation as well as supporting up to 128MB of memory vs. 64MB of the older version.

Memory Slots: MS Pro, SD (TX) vs. MS Pro (T)

Sort of a big deal…since this is a first for Sony. Of course, the PCMCIA slot allows for any memory types.

USB Ports: 3 (TX) vs. 2 (T)

More USB ports are always better.

Instant On: Somewhat hardware related since it adds new functionality.

So, to say the the TX does not bring anything new “technically” to the table is incorrect. There are a lot of improvements due to the new platform. Of course, there really isn’t anything the you can do with TX that you can’t with the T.

size and weight is almost a good enough reason for people like me to upgrade.

gr00vy0ne - thats sort of my point…what doesn’t the TX do that the T could…in response to the comment that annonymous said about it not being better.

If everything is improved in some way, and nothing is removed, for example from the TR to the T we lost the motion eye, then it’s not just different, it’s an improvement…and there is no convincing argument, except price, that the TX isn’t worth upgrading to.

Erik

Do not forget that it also offers CF and less of a protruding battery profile.  Functionally moot, but better to look at.

Where is the CF? It must be invisible.

Guys,

It turned into a huge argument. People can buy whatever they want. I don’t see why people will prefer a more expensive TX vs. T, it must be the shiny factor ... Functionality wise, I see no improvements.

Where is the CF? It must be invisible.

Guys,

It turned into a huge argument. People can buy whatever they want. I don’t see why people will prefer a more expensive TX vs. T, it must be the shiny factor ... Functionality wise, I see no improvements.

Ha, don’t worry about it. Everyone just likes putting in their two cents/pence. We had a similar discussion like this when the T’s first came out and people had just bought TRs.

URL Newegg is listing the TX651P/B for US$2,249.00 with $6.99 3-day shipping.

Jef

Hmm…a $50 savings, affordable shipping and it’s in stock. That’s pretty good. I would dare say there’s part of me that wants one but I really want to wait for the dual core models likely to come out next year.

I have just checked several vendors, and the TX charcoal seems to be in stock.  Try pricegrabber.  Several are selling them for 2150.00.  Buy.com also has them listed in stock, but for 2300.00.  I will probably go for one and sell my T250.  I, for one, like the upgrades offered in this model.  To each his own I guess.  I can understand both viewpoints, but know it is ultimately a personal decision based upon individual needs and wants. 

I really would like to get the platinum, but not at 2500 or 2600$, so I guess I will go with the charcoal.  Shame, the platinum would take me back to the good ol days of the TR. 

I would not even have debated upgrading to the TX if Sony would have implemented a full OLED screen like on their Japanese release VZ pda.

Will check in once I actually decide to order one and get a ship date.

I love to see the forum buzzzzz when a new model set comes out.  As for me, I am thinking of jumping the Sony ship entirely.  I have been waiting too long for a Sony tablet and I am growing impatient.  Gateway offers a solid tablet for a decent price:

I haven’t made a final decision yet, but assuming nothing better comes out I may move in this direction.

[quote author=“TruthSeeker”]I love to see the forum buzzzzz when a new model set comes out.  As for me, I am thinking of jumping the Sony ship entirely.  I have been waiting too long for a Sony tablet and I am growing impatient.  Gateway offers a solid tablet for a decent price:

I haven’t made a final decision yet, but assuming nothing better comes out I may move in this direction.

Personally, I’m a huge fan of HP/Compaq’s TC1100 model but sadly it’s going to be discontinued according to HP brass even though I think it’s one of the best models out there. I’m not a huge fan of convertible models for some reason and like pure tablet devices.

I suspect Windows Vista is going to help out the Tablet PC platform due to it’s way better power management, superior handwriting recognition, and more Tablet PC friendly design. When that happens, I’m sure at this point Sony will delve into a tablet product. I would dare say they already have some designs in the labs and are just waiting for the right time.

[quote author=“gr00vy0ne”]I suspect Windows Vista is going to help out the Tablet PC platform due to it’s way better power management, superior handwriting recognition, and more Tablet PC friendly design. When that happens, I’m sure at this point Sony will delve into a tablet product. I would dare say they already have some designs in the labs and are just waiting for the right time.

I must confess that I just don’t “get” Gates’ (and Scoble’s) obsession with Tablet PCs. With the exception of applications where the user is standing constantly, they’re just not as comfortable or convenient as notebooks. You have to cradle them in one arm unless you put them down on a table and if you’re sitting at the table a notebook has its screen propped up at you. If you’re drinking a coffee at a local coffee house, you will have to put down something, whether it’s the tablet or the pen to take a hit of caffeine, where with a laptop, you only have to move one hand off the keyboard for some trimethylxanthine goodness. Typing is faster than handwriting even if handwriting recognition wasn’t a problem (unless you hunt-and-peck). Writing out a URL is a pain in the ass, especially when you consider that you don’t have the Ctrl+Enter trick.

Don’t get me wrong, the form factor definitely has its uses. It’s great for things like inventory control and table waiting where the user is standing as he’s using the device. Even then, the tablet could be replaced in both applications by things like Telxon devices (many of which have integral barcode scanners and keypads) and PDAs. Either way, tablets are a solution in search of a problem and the market has for the most part moved on.