[quote author=“tmkt”]One of the appeals of them is that they make alot more sense then the cars over here.

Sense is relative. My brothers both went to school in upstate NY. With the amount of snow that falls there in the winter, these smart cars would be useless. High clearance and 4wd can make the difference between getting out of your parking space or not.

[quote author=“Drachen”][quote author=“tmkt”]One of the appeals of them is that they make alot more sense then the cars over here.

Sense is relative. My brothers both went to school in upstate NY. With the amount of snow that falls there in the winter, these smart cars would be useless. High clearance and 4wd can make the difference between getting out of your parking space or not.

I’m from Sudbury, Ontario, Canada..
Shitload of snow in the winter.
this 4WD, and high clearance is a load of crap..
I had an mx6 there for years..no 4wd..barely any clearance..
and I survived..
Lots of europe countries get snow…

Just excuses from the SUV crowd trying to justify the need for the biggest and baddest..

Just a tad north of New York

http://ca.maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=M7tNO.p_0TqT&csz=sudbury,on&country=ca&new=1&name;=&qty;=

He kept complaining about the car he bought until he got his Audi Quattro. I do know I’ve never seen so many Subarus since I went to their graduations.

[quote author=“tmkt”] I’m from Sudbury, Ontario, Canada..
Shitload of snow in the winter.
this 4WD, and high clearance is a load of crap..
I had an mx6 there for years..no 4wd..barely any clearance..
and I survived..
Lots of europe countries get snow…

Just excuses from the SUV crowd trying to justify the need for the biggest and baddest..

Well, I originally come from the Beauce area of Québec. In the winter, it’s cold, windy and we also had a ton of snow. However, we saw a big difference with 4x4 vehicles… especially on sparingly maintained country roads, Heck, before the 4x4, we ofetn had to park the car at the lodge and either hitch a ride on a tractor or wait for the road to be plowed. With 4x4 vehicles (trucks and SUVs), this rarely happened. We always got home.  So, I kind of understand where he is coming from.

On the other hand, I have no idea why people buy SUVs in cities (ok, I hear what they claim  

I personally know someone in the DC area that has a Jeep Grand Cherokee… the fully loaded version with everything including the 4x4. When he complained about the snow, I asked why he was so concerned?  His answer stunned me: “I don’t want to use my SUV in the snow”.  Now THAT is nuts   I later met him and he would wipe off any salt stains he would see.. Make your own conclusions.

Oh, I drive a Dodge Caravan, which I use as my car and my light-duty truck.  It’‘s as economical as any mid-size car… but not as much as my daughter’s Ford Focus ZX3 (SVT).

It’s actually not really about the expense but rather the legality. A lot of these neat little cars don’t meet the US standards of emissions, crash safety, etc. so even if you could bring one over they would not be street legal.

If I’m not mistaken, some of the smart car designs in Europe are only for “in city” use only and aren’t even allowed on highways. So, it’s not such a straightforward thing.

Yeph exactly !!!!!!!! The smart car, i havent seen any on the freeway. I dont think they’re allowed , i may be wrong tho. They have to present some kind of safety cushion which these cars obviously lack because of their ineffectual     size.

where are the freeways? I saw none in London :?

I’m pretty sure they are allowed on the highways in Canada.. now that they are for sale there..
Only 2 of the models..
I’m i’m quite certain i’ve seen many different models of the smart car on Italian highways..

where are the freeways? I saw none in London :?

None within the city of london no.

[quote author=“Sony Vaio”]1999 BMW 330ci Cabriolet / Convertible
2001 BMW X5 3.0d
2004/2005 Audi A8 V8 4.0

I have two vehicles, a 1990 Ford Ranger (which is still in mint condition) and a 1995 Plymouth Acclaim.

Nothing really fancy but they both work really well.

I have been eyeballing the all new redesigned 2007 Camry.  Yeah, call me a plain guy, but I have changed a lot since marriage, kids, and the Lord.

If it adds any coolness, I will most likely get the SE version with all the sporty add ons and the DVD Navigation system.  8)

(TruthSeeker winces as he awaits the next sarcastic post….)

[quote author=“TruthSeeker”](TruthSeeker winces as he awaits the next sarcastic post….)

Why is everyone looking at me all of the sudden? :?

Even quicker than I expected…...impressive. :D

My Snarky-Sense was tingling.