im so unprofessional that im intenting to go for the X too…

:x too bad    

Rubber? It’s all plastic…it may look like rubber, but it acts and feel and is plastic.

[quote author=“DayWalker1”]4) No Optical Drive, which you cannot convince anyone around is not needed. It is a pain without one. If you dont need it, its just because you are not a power user neither a user, just basics, which in my mind you can do on a UX50 with the same success.

I am a former computer programmer, I have a personal network of over 9 PCs with 4 monitors surrounding my main desk…I don’t think they get more power user then me. On my laptop I have very little use for an optical drive, everything I need I load when I first get the PC or along the way. In the past 2 years or so life has revolved around USB Drives anyway, in the officeplace nobody made a CD unless it was going out to a client. The only thing I could say i would use my drive for would be to watch movies on a flight, but I could run that off the HD or use my portable DVD player or Portable Multi Media player, both of which are smaller then my notebook therefore being more convinient.

I doubt I could type my 3 hour lectures on a UX50.

I am not offended by your comments, I just think they are misleading to others. I bought my x for me and me alone, I couldn’t care if the world thought it was dumb. To me, it fit me perfectly, but your stating things and trying to represent them as facts and they clearly are not.

What I find laughable is the fact that you keep referring to a ‘power user’, technically, if this was my only PC I would laugh at the T, TR, and X being a power user and all…a 1Ghz P-M wouldn’t handle half the things I do on a daily basis, encoding a movie would take the rest of my natural life.

Also, with over a TB of storage that I use, I doubt I could find any notebook that would fill this requirement.

Erik

it’s getting out of hand.  i would love to see the end of it.  can’t wait for the ending…

RE: Optical Drive.

I can see that I am different from most people here in this respect.  I not only wanted the CD drive internal but I also needed the CD burner.  I had a laptop with an external CD and it was a pain for me.  I use my TR to back up photos from my memory cards and with the internal CD burner I can backup the cards to a CD as well as to the hard drive.

This gives me two copies of everything while travelling.

I can also play a DVD on the plane if I want to which helps kill time.

Having never used the X505 I can’t comment on it but it’s certainly true that there is no perfect computer.  If everyone could be happy with the same setup then Sony (and other companies) wouldn’t have to have so many models, would they?

I love the TR.  It was the right computer a decent (if a bit high) price.  It’s very portable and the battery life is fantastic.  Built in wireless (and now bluetooth) are very nice.  And the screen is beautiful, allowing me to see my digital photos much better than my old laptop screen.  I think it’s great that I can be sitting at the American Royal Horse Show here in Kansas City and keep up with the Cheifs game on nfl.com and post a message to this forum all in a package that only weighs three pounds.

On the ohter hand my wife thinks it’s too small.  When we go shopping she looks at the huge Sony Vaios with the 17” X-Brite screens.  I think she’s crazy but that’s just me.  Of course she isn’t planning to drag hers to horse shows either.

So I guess what I am saying is “Can’t we all just get along?”

[quote author=“DayWalker1”]Lets go the savage way.

I am a MIS Director.

have 2 servers, 3 laptops, 3 workstations around me as we speak.

Running Windows/Linux/OpenBSD/FreeBSD etc.

I am a Former C++/JAVA Programmer. I hold CCNA CCDA CCNP CCDP CCIE MCSE MCSA MCP MCDBA A+

how nice for you ... unfortunately no diplomatic style like a “director”

close this topic, the more discuss the more ridicolous it gets…

everybody shall use that system that fits right for the individual user

yes my pee pee is bigger than yours!  need a ruler?

[quote author=“DayWalker1”]my opinion -> X505 is a CRAPPY laptop a step back for sony. The more you try to convince me the funnier it gets.

If it was raining I would think I smelled wet TROLL.

Yes, let’s close this thread

[quote author=“DayWalker1”]
I am a Former C++/JAVA Programmer. I hold CCNA CCDA CCNP CCDP CCIE MCSE MCSA MCP MCDBA A+

Oh, funny coincidence. I just happen to have a problem with that Cisco 2677 Access Router. Care to tell me how to replace elements in an access list without first emptying it?

Also it’s no deal for you to tell me wether RIPv2, OSPF or BGP4 would be better. It’s an IPC network.

[quote author=“FrodoID”][quote author=“DayWalker1”]
I am a Former C++/JAVA Programmer. I hold CCNA CCDA CCNP CCDP CCIE MCSE MCSA MCP MCDBA A+

Oh, funny coincidence. I just happen to have a problem with that Cisco 2677 Access Router. Care to tell me how to replace elements in an access list without first emptying it?

Also it’s no deal for you to tell me wether RIPv2, OSPF or BGP4 would be better. It’s an IPC network.

now im curious mr. cleverness… 

[quote author=“DayWalker1”]Lets go the savage way.

I am a MIS Director.

have 2 servers, 3 laptops, 3 workstations around me as we speak.

Running Windows/Linux/OpenBSD/FreeBSD etc.

I am a Former C++/JAVA Programmer. I hold CCNA CCDA CCNP CCDP CCIE MCSE MCSA MCP MCDBA A+

but that wont solve the issue will it?

my opinion -> X505 is a CRAPPY laptop a step back for sony. The more you try to convince me the funnier it gets.

And yes, I use cdroms/dvdroms on a daily basis

So, my question is, why would you need the 505 to be the jack of all trades? Wouldn’t it suffice to be the lighest, thinnest, smallest, Windows machine?

What can’t you do (besides optical drive) on a 505 that you can do on a TR for example…and don’t say BT.

Erik

Wow. Actually a very detailed and complete answer. People could say that the term “Class C” shouldn’t be used anymore since Classes were an old RIPv1 thing and today everything is about classless CIDR notation, but that would be splitting hairs. I must admit, I’m deeply impressed.

Thanks for the pointer to the access list article. However, I must say that I already know how to take care of access lists and indeed it seems impossible to insert or remove single items in the middle of an access list without replacing the whole access list and thus emptying it.

But I still have something to say about the X505 topic: different computers for different users. I am a TR owner and don’t plan to buy a X505 - and if I do it certainly won’t replace my TR. But the X505 is a very, very portable and lightweight computer for which I certainly would have some use for.

I don’t really know about the keyboard, so I can’t comment on this. I’m used to typing really fast so this would be an issue, yes. Then again, the only keyboards that really convince me are the old 80s IBM PC keyboards and some other keyboards from that time. I really never, ever, ever saw a really good keyboard on a notebook or laptop. Seeing how heavy and large the old IBM keyboards are I wonder if I’d like to…

However, the external optical drive wouldn’t be an issue if I would use the notebook for what it’s been built - as a highly portable subnotebook - just like my N505X was. Just because you are using the optical drive all the time doesn’t mean that everybody else does. And if you don’t use it all the time… well, the external drive will certainly be enough.

In fact, I would actually hate it if the X505 would feature an internal optical drive - that’s additional weight and additional size to carry around.

And the screen - no, the screen doesn’t suck at all. It’s no X-Brite but it’s still not a bad screen. It’s just your average notebook screen - nothing special about it, neither good nor bad.

So, no, it’s not a step backwards. The X505 is the first notebook which features a 10-layer-architecture on its motherboard. It’s the first notebook which is that slim and that light. The first notebook which you really don’t feel while carrying it around all day. My filofax seems heavier than that thing…

Granted, built in WLAN and Bluetooth would be a nice thing to add. A bigger and faster harddrive also qualifies as a good idea. But apart from that it’s a really usable piece of hardware.

Keep in mind that I am not an X505 owner nor do I plan to be one, so my point of view should be fairly objective.

Regards,
Julien

all these acronyms confuse me… mcse zzqi bbq cnds usda :oops:

...I have a TR3AP?  :?

~nox

Daywalker, I really don’t understand your virulent attitude towards the X. I’ll admit that, at first glance, I was less than impressed with it, particulary given the price. Nevertheless it’s still a remarkable little bit of technology and, money being no object, a nice fit where size, weight, useable keyboard and reasonable performance are the criteria. Given Eric’s needs I can see why it’s perfect for his application.