The X series is no longer listed on Sony Style. As I assumed it was most likely not a big seller, if you want one, i’d grab it before there are no more available.
[quote author=“DayWalker1”]X505 was a huge step back. BAD REALLY BAD keyboard, LAME screen and poor performance. I will jump for anything close to a T or TR but not an X… it is useless, even the cool factor is killed by quality of the screen
I could see your points on all the above except the keyboard, having both a TR and an X you can’t compare the two, the X wins hands-down. Once you get it on a table, it is one of the best keyboards i’ve ever used.
Unfortunately, at this point i’m still stuck with a Jap. keyboard so the right shift still kills me.
[quote author=“DayWalker1”]The sad story is if Even I get paid to use a X505 I would not. It is ugly, childish looking and completely not functional thingy…. I guess it challanges some people’s cool factor very well though
Lol, a bit harsh. Your right, it’s completely not functional, it doesn’t run Windows or anything business related
[quote author=“DayWalker1”]X505 was a huge step back. BAD REALLY BAD keyboard, LAME screen and poor performance. I will jump for anything close to a T or TR but not an X… it is useless, even the cool factor is killed by quality of the screen
I’d have to disagree with some of those comments. First of all, it’s a step forward in many ways. It’s the first system to use carbon fibre and nickel + carbon materials for the body of a notebook. It’s also the thinnest notebook ever to date. In terms of bad keyboard (and/or pointing device), I think that’s purely subjective. Some people actually like it. Some would argue the TR’s keyboard is also bad. I don’t understand how one can say it has poor performance when it essentially has the same speed CPU and same speed hard disk as the TR and T. RAM speed is also the same as well.
The only part I can agree on is the screen. I wouldn’t say it’s lame but it surely doesn’t fit in with the rest of the line when they all have XBrite. Perhaps a new version will have this.
If anything, the X showed Sony still had guts to design AND sell cutting edge technology. It’s good for us because these ideas end up trickling down into the other systems and we all benefit from it.
I “rented” one from sony for 10 days. My typing speed went down, because of the quality of the keyboard. The keys feel really weird, you have to punch them in the middle to get the best results. The laptop feels like fake toy in many ways. Lack of internal DVD/CDROM is a big minus. The screen is REALLY BAD and performance wise for unknown reason my TR3AP1 kicks the X505 @ss. I had them right next to each other. Carbon Case and Light factor is not a primary reason to buy a laptop, you will need the functionality, which the X505 Lacks. If I have to choose between the X505 and the Sharp alternative, I will go with the sharp, the screen is better and the keyboard is a hell lot more comfy.
The more you talk, the less I believe you. Unless you have tiny fingers I doubt you could hit the keys anywhere except the center, its not like the keys are all that big. I had my TR for close to a year, I think I used the optical drive 4-5 times. To me, I can be very functional without it. I personally needed the lightest, thinnest device I could find that would run Word and OneNote, which the X505 does fine. If you buy an x505 or any other sub-notebook specifically for games or other power-hungry apps, your the fool, not the machine. These were developed for light weight portable business computing, nothing more.
I’ll admit, the screen is not as bright or as clear, but it is very sharp in worse conditions then my X-Bright ever was, it has 100% less glare, which is a big plus in my mind.
All of the benchmarks from various reviews state that the x505 is only marginally slower then a TR, so your claims are unsupported there as well.
I fealt that way the first time I saw Sony’s new lines…It was bitter sweet since I just got my TR….of course now I wanted the lastest and greatest technology.
But, I took it all in and relized that its like grOOvy said we will probably some ideas taken from x505, TR, S and even x505 in the future models…
This sub-notebooks are part of the evolution process of the future…And I am happy to be a part of it…I believe that all of us using these great sub-notebooks are virtually beta testers for the ultimate sub-notebook : :wink:
In fact all the new models from Sony are a huge step forward….The x505 is in a class of its own…It can’t be compared to any sub-notebook (hands down)
Its a hell of a lot smaller and lighter…Nothing compares…
[quote author=“DayWalker1”]1) SCREEN -> Big Piece of S***
Well, I still think that’s a bit strong. It’s a decent screen. Considering Sony (and every other manufacturer) is moving to XBrite type screens it just sticks out.
3) lack of build in wireless (you need to stuck a card)/
This was a major downer for me. I use wireless all the time and PCMCIA wireless cards are almost always weaker than built in solutions.
4) No Optical Drive, which you cannot convince anyone around is not needed. It is a pain without one. If you dont need it, its just because you are not a power user neither a user, just basics, which in my mind you can do on a UX50 with the same success.
I disagree. 90% of the time, you’re not using the optical drive. Personally, I like to have it but that’s just me. Also, what’s the definition of a power user? I think it’s someone who knows their hardware and software and knows how to get the most out of it. A power user won’t always go for the most full featured product. They will go for the product that best suits their needs.
5) Performance -> 25% slower than TR in the same class.
Can I see benchmarks? In CPU bound tests, they would be the same (assuming both are 1GHz models).
And FWIW, size and weight IS a primary reason for some users to buy a laptop. I’ve had plenty of colleagues who have back problems from years of carrying Dells all over the world who now look at weight as a primary buying factor. Notebooks (especially subnotebooks) require a lot of research and some models fit certain types of users better than others. You need to look at them with eye towards what they were designed for. The X505 was designed for the mobile professional who needs the lightest, slimmest, and most powerful notebook out there at that size. For note taking, e-mail correspondence, web-based research, etc. it fits the bill pretty well. Lastly, you also have to understand that this is actually a fairly old product. It only recently came out in the US but has been out in Japan for a while. So, it’s entirely possible something new is on the way.
gr00vy, and everyone else… lets just give up. Clearly he has no clue wat he is talking about and his “opinions” aren’t even possible to have been observed unless he had a defected model. When I went to Fry’s I asked the guy how long he figured the x505 there was out as a display (the individual x505 not the model itself) he said 5 months. 5 months of being on all day long; the screen was still nice and bright (although obviously nothing compared to the TR, T , or S so people have hardly anything on the screen.
DayWalker1: I went from a S keyboard to typing some stuff for trial on the X… i was typing just as fast. S—> X should have been harder than your TR—> X trial typing…
ANyway… everyone give up… he’s more stubborn than me (but at least I give support for my facts.)
