I might really be wrong here, but i think if bush gets re elected it might just hamper america’s image a bit. I dont really feel there is much difference in the policy rhetoric as presented by both the candidates, but america needs kerry for the image boost.

+1

All our american buddies on this forum will be voting as i write this, wonder if there is going to be a little “mind change” amongst them before they cast their vote, I’m sure i’d be tempted ..  :shock:

Voted early this morning. After all of the acrimony over the past 4 years and all of the expectations hinging on this election, it was a surprisingly gratifying experience.

wonder if there is going to be a little “mind change” amongst them

I just don’t think it will happen.  People are very wierd about that.

My mother in law votes republican, period.  If George Bush were caught with his pants down in a room full of naked 10 year old boys she would still vote for him.

I don’t understand that kind of blind loyalty.  I may not completely know what Kerry is capable of and who knows what the next four years will bring if he is elected?

But I know exactly what Bush and Dick have done.  Theyv’e screwed us.  Over 1000 service men dead fighing in a country that never should have been invaded, at least not for the reasons given.  Osama BinLaden still alive and still taunting us with video tapes.  An economy in the crapper no matter what Dubbya says.  The lies about WMD and Saddam’s ties to Al Queda.  GW’s ties to the Bin Laden family and Enron and the whole Halliburton no-bid contract fiasco.

And how can people ignore the fact that GW and his staff were given a briefing just one month before 9/11 that indicated that BinLaden was planning to attack the US and he did nothing?  He was the president on watch when the attack happened and instead of people trying to figure out how he could have let it happen they either a) blame it on the outgoing Clinton adminstration or b) only notice his “heroic” speeches from ground zero.

George Carlin once said “Think about how stupid the average person is.  Then realize that half the people are more stupid than that.”  That’s how I feel looking at polls that show 50% of the country is planning to put Bush/Dick back in office.  It’s scary.

Who knows when this election will end?  The Daily Show is having a special tonight called “Election 2004:Prelude to the Recount”.  I am afraid that’s what it will come down to.

That’s all from me.  I have purposely avoided this thread because arguing about the legality/morality of porn and politics is a fruitless excercise at best.

But I had to get this out.  And I am done.

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wonder if there is going to be a little “mind change” amongst them

I just don’t think it will happen.  People are very wierd about that.

My mother in law votes republican, period.  If George Bush were caught with his pants down in a room full of naked 10 year old boys she would still vote for him.

I don’t understand that kind of blind loyalty.  I may not completely know what Kerry is capable of and who knows what the next four years will bring if he is elected?

But I know exactly what Bush and Dick have done.  Theyv’e screwed us.  Over 1000 service men dead fighing in a country that never should have been invaded, at least not for the reasons given.  Osama BinLaden still alive and still taunting us with video tapes.  An economy in the crapper no matter what Dubbya says.  The lies about WMD and Saddam’s ties to Al Queda.  GW’s ties to the Bin Laden family and Enron and the whole Halliburton no-bid contract fiasco.

And how can people ignore the fact that GW and his staff were given a briefing just one month before 9/11 that indicated that BinLaden was planning to attack the US and he did nothing?  He was the president on watch when the attack happened and instead of people trying to figure out how he could have let it happen they either a) blame it on the outgoing Clinton adminstration or b) only notice his “heroic” speeches from ground zero.

George Carlin once said “Think about how stupid the average person is.  Then realize that half the people are more stupid than that.”  That’s how I feel looking at polls that show 50% of the country is planning to put Bush/Dick back in office.  It’s scary.

Who knows when this election will end?  The Daily Show is having a special tonight called “Election 2004:Prelude to the Recount”.  I am afraid that’s what it will come down to.

That’s all from me.  I have purposely avoided this thread because arguing about the legality/morality of porn and politics is a fruitless excercise at best.

But I had to get this out.  And I am done.

Lot of conviction there. No prizes for guessing who your going to be voting for mate. I guess we all get mad at our leaders for screwing us over, thats been the beauty of politics since its inception.

[quote author=“writetovarun”]Lot of conviction there. No prizes for guessing who your going to be voting for mate. I guess we all get mad at our leaders for screwing us over, thats been the beauty of politics since its inception.

All career politicians are crooks and liars.  It seems to be the way things are.  Our job is to try to keep the worst of them from screwing things up too much.

The saddest part is that I am not so much voting FOR Kerry as I am voting AGAINST Bush.  It seems like a lot of elections come down to that.

Been hearing that from most people who are really voting for kerry. They want to vote for him because of the sheer lack of decent choice on ballot. Wasnt it something similar in 2000 thou ?

Yay! My civic duty is done!

All Hail Cobra Commander !

[quote author=“writetovarun”]Been hearing that from most people who are really voting for kerry. They want to vote for him because of the sheer lack of decent choice on ballot. Wasnt it something similar in 2000 thou ?

Not really. Both were to some extent unknown quantities. Gore tried to distance himself as much as he could from Clinton to boot. Bush was only known as the governor of Texas and the son of a former president at the time. On the other hand, most presidential elections with an incumbent running tend to be referendums on that incumbent. 1992 was when Bush I was defeated and it was again in 1996 when Clinton was reelected. This year it’s amplified by the extreme nature of the current president’s policies.

At this point 11:29PM Cali time, , I consider it safe to say that Bush has won. 269 - 207… even if Kerry manages to get every electoral vote remaining the best he can do at this point is to tie Bush in which case the decision will be passed to the House of Reps… the majority of which is… Republican… I am happy. Very happy.
Unfortunately:
>Barbara Boxer won the Senate position
>Prop 71 basically has passed
>Prop 68 is leading by a marginal percentage
Blah!  :?
(Please none of that “don’t count your chickens before they hatch” Believe me I know that saying…)

[quote author=“OnMyWayUp”]At this point 11:29PM Cali time, , I consider it safe to say that Bush has won. 269 - 207… even if Kerry manages to get every electoral vote remaining the best he can do at this point is to tie Bush in which case the decision will be passed to the House of Reps… the majority of which is… Republican… I am happy. Very happy.
Unfortunately:
>Barbara Boxer won the Senate position
>Prop 71 basically has passed
>Prop 68 is leading by a marginal percentage
Blah!  :?
(Please none of that “don’t count your chickens before they hatch” Believe me I know that saying…)

You must be watching NBC/CBS/Fox, they are counting Ohio for Bush, which CNN wont.

That being said, I doubt Kerry has a prayer, and I never thought he did. He’s over 3 million votes behind Bush…not that it matters but it looks real bad for Kerry who expected to win that part…and to loose with so many votes.

Republican House, Senate, President…

Erik

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Republican House, Senate, President…

Erik

All the better… However, political stance IMO is more important than political party. I’d vote for a Democrat, Consitutionist, Libertarian, whatever, if he, or she, stood for the same things as I… (i’m speaking of the next election btw… Hilary )
And of course CNN isn’t counting it… They are one of the most politically biased news groups in America.

> BREAKING NEWS Democratic VP candidate John Edwards says: “We’ve waited four years for this victory. We can wait one more night” as results lag in Ohio and Iowa.

Yea… that is… shattering… 

At least we don’t have the obviously pro-Republican FOX News Network declaring a victor before the final count is in. They basically swayed the outcome of the last election causing the other networks to clamor and report the same thing thinking FOX had some sort of inside scoop and not having any real proof.

269? Uh…everywhere I’m checking is reporting 249. Ohio is still up in the air.

[quote author=“gr00vy0ne”]269? Uh…everywhere I’m checking is reporting 249. Ohio is still up in the air.

All the major networks except CNN are reporting 269, hes not lying, i see it myself.

Erik