I can’t believe its going to be one year….and they are going to replace it with the T series…I wonder if the planned this.. :ph34r:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4505-3121_7-30557478.html

what a shame that we won’t see any new tr in the next year, but i think sony will have a new line which does the same on tr, like camera, wifi, bt (unlikely)...etc.

regarding bluetooth, manufacturers are damping this costly and outdated(though there are still many devices utilize this) technology in markets outside EU, and are either waiting for the new standard calls “UWB” from intel, or using current wifi stardards.
http://informationweek.mobilepipeline.com/20900182

fact is that every sony product just released or to be released will not incorporate bt but may add wifi support on lower end products.

So, no more FX-77 digicam (bt enabled)
    no more DCR IP-55 video cam (bt enabled)
    no more notebook, clies that are bt enabled, even in japan domestic market, because their new flagship Clie-VZ90 doesn’t have internal bt, while all ex-flagships have.

I am sure everyone will miss bt, and that elegant blue icon :| .

Hmm. I thought the new, upcoming T series which are spoken of as the successor of the TR series have Bluetooth as well?

(But, basically, the TR series and the T series are practically identical)

I doubt, the japanese site of type T doesn’t even mention bt

though I once saw in this forum the spec of european type T on pdf which does include bt built-in.

Same with the TR series, I guess? I think I read somewhere that the US version of the TR is missing bluetooth (and apparently some other things).

I personally just know the european versions of the TR (as I’m living in Germany) and they’re still fullfeatured.

So it may be that the EU T series again has BT like the TR but the US version does not.

All US and Asian version of TR don’t have bt, while top japanese models like TR5B and EU models do(there is no customisation on sony european site for TR, so only top models are available, on the other hand, japanese customers can use sony style japan to customize their TR for cpu, ram, os, keyboard, and even bt, plus they get 1/2 price for trade-in their past TR model in exchange for newer models.

I once get told by a sony insider that they also have market segmentations as all companies do, while japan domestic market is definitely class A market which always get the best from sony, US and EU markets are class B market, they either get slightly tuned down version(US version) or full featured version(EU version albeit more expensive), either way, foreign markets are bond to pay an extended premium because the consuming power in these markets are rather high that they are willing to pay more (at least that’s what the insider told me, although I certainly disagree the logic.)

there are also Class C market-rest of the sony’s coverage, including rest of asia, both south and north american(outside US), Oceania. where the top configuration is still a much tuned down, but prices maintain the same as equivalent japanese top models. for example, all hong kong and chinese top model of TR5 don’t have DVD-RW, BT, and only have 768mb of ram and Wlan b/g (shame they call it TR5 :evil: ).

Really fustrating policy, however, what typically unfair is that the price of EU models are the highest, for example: Japanese full featured TR5B (DVD-RW, bt, wlan a/b/g, 1G ram) sells for 225000 yen, equivalent of 2200 Euro, while in european market the same configuration cost 2999 euro (Fnac and Surcouf price)

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Really fustrating policy, however, what typically unfair is that the price of EU models are the highest, for example: Japanese full featured TR5B (DVD-RW, bt, wlan a/b/g, 1G ram) sells for 225000 yen, equivalent of 2200 Euro, while in european market the same configuration cost 2999 euro (Fnac and Surcouf price)

France? Here in Germany, there’s just the TR5MP. Fullfeatured, including everything you mentioned (“DVD-RW, bt, wlan a/b/g, 1G ram”). However, it only costs 2200EUR as well, and the price is about to drop once the T series come out

2200 euro? how nice, because here in france, the prices in computer malls are the same hefty 2999 euro, interestingly though, every TR generation has the same price tag of 2999 (good tradition?), i know the TVA in france is 19.6%, while in Germany and Britain is somewhat 16%.
The difference could also caused by higher markup in french companies(those evils :evil: ).

Btw, The model is TR5MP, same :D

Maybe you should order your future TRs from Germany then

Should be possible without big problems or great shipping costs. Sure, they keyboard will be QUERTZ, but it’s replaceable.

And you really should replace the keyboard then, I know that typing french on a non-french-keyboard can be a real pain Ca n’est pas facile d’entrer tout les accents. Par contre, entrer des chiffres, c’est beacoup plus facile qu’avec un clavier francais

Salut,
Julien (ouai, je suis franco-allemand)

moin cher? tu as raison, mais common faire avec la garantie d’allemagne? actuallement, je prefere clavier en anglais, parce que….

i am a non-french speaker, so english(or japanese) keyboard is fine for me

salut
Charles (je suis chinois habitez a Hong Kong)

good question with the warranty… Sorry, I don’t know Maybe someone else here knows something about international (inner-EU) warranty issues?

About the keyboard: then the germany keyboard might be fine for you. It’s basically an english keyboard with Z and Y swapped and some symbols on different locations, because of the german Umlaute (äöüÄÖÜß). But nothing an english speaker couldn’t use (contrary to the french keyboard, which I think is really only good if you actually type french)