I seem to have a slight pink hue on the far right of the display. It’s most noticeable when viewing whites. On the left it’s crisp white, but as it goes towards the right side edge of the LCD, there is a slight hue of pink, as if something in the display bezel is interferring with it?
Does anyone else notice this, or did I get a bum display in my TR2A? :(
i actually see a little pink in the top right but only in IE (which is grey). i set my wallpaper to a pretty much white background and i dont see it there.
Thanks for checking yours out. Yeah, it’s more obvious on the top right on mine, but if you don’t see it at all when viewing all white, then I guess yours is fine. I’ll have to check out another TR2 in a store to see if this is the norm with this screen. It’s slight, but I can’t see this being normal.
Actually, I just stumbled upon gr00vy0ne’s (very good) review and I notices the same slight hue on one of his photos with a white desktop background:
…notice the faint pink hue on the right side of the LCD versus the left. Am I to assume that all Sony TR series LCDs are like this? If so, is there something in the LCD bezel that is causing this?
I wonder if the larger version of that pic would be more helpful?
Went to DataVision (here in NYC) today and the TR they had on display showed the same pink hue in the display. No one else notices this, or thinks it’s a bit annoying? It’s more noticeable when the screen is less bright.
They also had a Fujitsu P5020 on display and I have to say, that LCD looked nicer! I was surprised because you always here how much nicer the TR series display is, but the Fujitsu display looked richer, had better darker blacks and solid whites. In comparison, the TR display has somewhat blotchy blacks and some angles, and a bit un-even whites (like with the pink issue).
[quote author=“Sowelu”]…notice the faint pink hue on the right side of the LCD versus the left. Am I to assume that all Sony TR series LCDs are like this? If so, is there something in the LCD bezel that is causing this? I wonder if the larger version of that pic would be more helpful?
ha! how could a tr user tell if using a tr to see the pic and there really is a problem? well, that’s all i got to try and see this pinkish color. and from exp. looking at pics taken from a digi cam on multiple displays will not be true to the color of the object anyway, right? not without some color matching scheme employed…interesting problem! so when i look at the photo in your post, the photo on the left looks like a white screen with hint of blue, and the photo on right does contain some pickish hue, but the case is certainly not the same color as mine. i think we need a better way to test ... btw, the more i look at my screen the pinker it’s getting but i bet its a psychosomatic thing….
there is a similar thread going on in the ipod lounge over whether the ipod screen is blue or white, and confusing the issue is that some apple ads clearly show a blue backlit screen. mine’s white, but then again, the longer i look at it, the bluer it’s becoming
perhaps it’s the Matrix. next i’ll be seeing Agent Smiths….
A Quasi-scientific Study into the Pinkish TR Monitor Problem
Conducted in the Lab of the Scientifically Illiterate
Boudha, Nepal
November 7, 2003
Executive Summary
Many users are reporting a pinkish hue on the right side of their TR monitors, and as this is a new product on the market, and as Sony Corp is known for it’s high quality standards in the 21st century, these allegations of defects must be taken seriously and investigated to the full extent of scientific law. So we at the Lab of the Scientifically Illiterate, Nepal, have sought and received funding from the Center of Disease and Monitor Failure Control in Atlanta Georgia and have immediately begun research and development for a cure. After spending 1.6 million federal dollars, here is our preliminary report, prepared in a record breaking time of 16 minutes, 34 seconds.
Hypothesis
Like Apple Corporation has done with iPod monitors, the Sony Corporation has sold thousands of users an off-color monitor, possible defective, and possibly the cause of Pink Eye (Conjunctivitis of the PC-user’s eye), or in the case of Apple Corp, Blue Eye (Conjunctivitis of the MP3 player’s eye). This problem needs documentation to support the growing concern across America, and to prepare for a Class Action Law Suit; to include those robbed of hard drive space and false impressions of usable memory.
Methodology
To determine the presence of a pink monitor, a certified white-shooting Nikon Coolpix 4500 4megapixel camera was used in close-up mode to photograph a TR in our independent laboratory facility in Kathmandu Nepal. A test page was used that simulates real-time usage: windows internet explorer version 6.0.2800.1106.xpsp2.03030422-1633 with cyber strength of 128-bit. A segment of the test screen from the right side (where most of the reported cases of pink eye stem from was enlarged by 300x as well as a segment of the test screen from the precise center of the screen. The lighting used was daylight, mid-morning, after coffee and the temperature was 17c. The results can be seen below:
Conclusions
1. Microsoft should reconsider it’s version numbering scheme
2. There are more pink pixels on the right side of the screen, as well as a clear indication of uneven backlighting across the horizontal plane.
3. The very upper corner of the screen shows a definite pink hue, but a determination cannot be made if that’s the windows logo off-white pink nature or an anomaly manufactured by Sony Corp.
4. Microsoft should also be included in the class action suit for reason stated in point 3 above.
5. Users of the TR may be correct to assume they are seeing more pink pixels that Fujitsu Users, but our analysis in this regards needs a Fujitsu laptop and another 1.6 million dollars to be sure.
Summary
User’s should immediately return all products to both the Sony Corp. and the Microsoft Corp. for a full refund, using those funds to A) donate here to the Lab of the Scientifically Illiterate, Boudha Nepal and to also take a long holiday, making sure to watch a lot of vivid sunsets in order to restore proper eye sight and to reduce the chance of a reoccurring pink eye.
Piss-take aside, the bottom line is that some TR screens are unevenly back-lit with a pink hue towards the right. No matter how you dance around it, ignore it, or spin it in a different way, it will still bother some when viewing whites. Also, it may vary between machine where it’s more obvious on some, and less on others. Regardless, it’s a problem and should not be accepted on a machine that’s been praised for it’s LCD since its debut.
If it doesn’t bother anyone else, or if some users have perfect LCDs, then that is fine - great even. Perhaps Sony is using two different LCD manufactures and whichever one you get is completely at random (this seems to be the norm in the computer industry).
Personally, I find it to be a defect, and yes, my TR is being sent back to Sony where they can stare at it all day if they’d like and eat the costs as they are doing so. You do not charge (over-price) for your products and offer second-rate parts and service. I don’t mind paying the premium, but I do expect quality in return. To think that ‘all-things Sony’ are inherently of high quality is completely ludicrous and a common misconception. Sony cuts corners and uses mediocre standards and parts just like the rest in many of their products.
So at the end of the day, between the (IMO) defective LCD, the whining, whirling and clackity clack Toshiba HD (the TR’s biggest downfall), and the over-all flex, creaks and delicateness of the chassis, I am sending my TR back for another sub-notebook. One that is a bit more solid, with less proprietary features and software, and a screen that is evenly backlit with no off-color hues. This notebook should also enable you to change the HD easily with a standard size one (for one of the faster, smoother and totally silent models out there), and the ability to install a clean copy of XP then installing drivers from an Application Disk without the hassle. It would also be nice if it not only had a MS Media slot, bit an SD and CF slot as well and a PC Card slot. The Fujitsu has all of these things, and costs $400 less with far better service and support (from experience).
The Sony TR is a great little machine, but Sony’s arrogance, huge profit margins, terrible service and support, and proprietary ways has turned me away. If a TR3 should show up using a decent HD (2.5”, 9.5mm) with a more consistent screen, it would definitely get my attention and my money.
To think that ‘all-things Sony’ are inherently of high quality is completely ludicrous and a common misconception.
Yes, i was being facitious when i mentioned Sony’s quality. I am suprised that anyone expects more from Sony than mediocre consumer electronics, poor customer service, and high prices based on brand name. They ARE the McDonalds of the PC industry, and always have been. BUT, every once in awhile they come out with something really cool like the TR (and let’s not forget the robot dog). In this regard, itt seems that something like a pinkish screen can be seen at time of purchase, and one should not take one of those home. At least this product is not plagued with dead pixels, which used to be a big problem a few years back.
So in short, ya take a risk when ya buy Sony, but in my case the risk was worth it. This is MY ALL TIME FAVORITE COMPUTER OF ALL TIME! and i am old enough to have owned the first IBM portable PC. It was an IBM PC XT repackaged into a suitcase that weighed about 50 lbs or so. I feel so fortunate to have lived long enough to be able to carry a better product than that in my little messenger bag. I am truely blessed, even if i eat a big mac or get ripped by sony once in awile.
My own unscientific thoughts on this is that Sony does still make high quality stuff…but just not in all markets and product lines. From my own experience, the Sony stuff that’s actually still made in Japan is of pretty decent quality. It’s the Sony stuff that’s made in other countries usually reserved for their value lines (which represents a huge part of their sales) that often is of sub-par quality.
I have absolutely no facts to back any of my assertions other than my own personal experience. My Sony digital cameras (DSC-F707, DSC-T1) and dv cam (DCR-PC5) which all happen to be made in Japan are well designed products and have served me well. The DV cam is nearly 3 years old and works extremely well and has been all over the world and used in many different situations. My F707 is nearly 2 years old and is also well travelled. My old Sony notebook (SR7K) was well designed for it’s time and it never had any problems. I find the quality of the TR to be of equally good quality.
My experience has been the same as gr00vy’s with Sony stuff- I usually buy the top-end bleeding edge tech Sony puts out, and almost always these things are made in Japan. A lot of the mass-market Sony products found in places like Best Buy are made in China, Thailand, Korea, or Malaysia. These don’t fare as well, and the build quality is definitely a notch below the Japanese made stuff. FWIW, my TR2’s screen has even illumination and no color shifting to speak of.
I noticed this slight pink on the right side of my screen also. I dunno, it doesn’t really bother me. At first, I thought it was an anti-glare coating on the outside surface of the screen (my crt has something like this which looks slight pinkish-purple with the screen off), but I guess it is uneven backlighting or something. I can only really notice it when the right side of the screen is all white. Otherwise I can’t even see it. I really don’t have the option of sending it in for repair unless its really fast because I need the computer for school. Has anyone sent theirs in for repair? If so, how long until you got it back?
[quote author=“invisiblefly”]:shock: :shock: :shock: i just ordered my TR today. how many people in this site return your tr. i should have seen this topic but i didn’t. :cry:
Not many. Relax, don’t worry, be happy.
According to the recent PC Magazine User Satisfaction Survey, Sony’s repair rate for notebooks in the first year was lowest of all manufacturers. Still you’d think they could do better than 9%... doesn’t say much for quality control anywhere in the industry. If you want reliability, don’t buy a computer.
