This would be a terrible move IMO. First of all PPC is nowhere near as stable as the Palm OS…on top of that, Clies were the least stable of all the Palms because of the advanced features and software…I can’t imagine how bad a PPC Clie would be…
In the comments section they talk about how horrible the Sony Memory Stick is… why does everyone think that the Sony Memory Stick format is so bad. IMO it is very stupid that there are so many media at all… how large of a difference can there be between the xD,SD,MS,CF, etc, etc formats? There should just be a universal format developed that can be small and easy to integrate into nearly any electronic device… including cellphones, PDA’s, laptops, cameras, camcorders, etc.
But back to my original question. Why is the MS format, which Sony is known for being clingy with, such a bad format? :?
To me it makes a certain amount of sense because Sony essentially tried to turn PalmOS into something as capable as a PPC. It’s arguable whether they succeeded or not (I’m of the opinion that they created a Frankenstein monster) but they went where Palm would never have drempt of going. I’d definitely like to see where they go with it… even though my PDA days are now over. If it doesn’t have a phone, I’m no longer interested.
OnMyWayUp: The format is Sony-specific (and isn’t that fast). There are so many formats because there are so many companies that want to collect royalties on their own formats. That’s why Sony exclusively uses somthing it owns (or partly owns).
[quote author=“Drachen”]To me it makes a certain amount of sense because Sony essentially tried to turn PalmOS into something as capable as a PPC. It’s arguable whether they succeeded or not (I’m of the opinion that they created a Frankenstein monster) but they went where Palm would never have drempt of going. I’d definitely like to see where they go with it… even though my PDA days are now over. If it doesn’t have a phone, I’m no longer interested.
OnMyWayUp: The format is Sony-specific (and isn’t that fast). There are so many formats because there are so many companies that want to collect royalties on their own formats. That’s why Sony exclusively uses somthing it owns (or partly owns).
Yes, but stability is key IMO for a portable device. I don’t care how advanced it is, it needs to be reliable first and foremost. I understand why they would go to PPC, but I can forsee many many problems with the device and its ultimate failure. And, btw, I agree…no phone, no purchase for me as well.
[quote author=“gr00vy0ne”]But integration has a long long way to go. Most of these converged devices still suck and the manufacturers don’t get it yet.
And someone needs to tell these manufacturers that not all of us want cameras on our phones. Some of us just want phones…
Boy do I hear you. I keep looking at new(er) phones and keep my oldish T68i simply because it’s tiny and a phone. The idea of a pda/phone has conceptual appeal, but anything big enough to be really nice as a pda becomes a very clunky phone. Just my opinion. What I’m liking is devices that *really* work together. I’ve almost got that with my T68 and TR. If Sony would only fix Bluespace…
[quote author=“TruthSeeker”]Soon you will all be saying “no phone, no PDA, no camera, no digicam, no win xp, NO PURCHASE.”
Integration is pushing in this direction. I cannot wait.
Wait longer. The day of the all-in-one device will never get here. There’s no way to get all the functionality of many diverse devices into one package without compromise. Various failures like the VCR/TV combos and those crappy printer/fax things at Staples are just a few examples. XP and XP apps won’t fit on a PDA screen the size of my P900’s. It will be a long time before PDA or phone cameras will get to the point where they can compete with the quality of an entry-level digicam.
PDAs and phones just naturally grew to encompass the same purpose: contact and task management. There’s no point to a PDA if you can do both those tasks with the phone in addition to calling duties. Most people don’t really care about cameras on their phones, and the usage stats seem to support that.
I’m a pretty unusual user too. Most people don’t use their phones primarily for data and Internet. I will avoid buying a phone that doesn’t have a reasonable browser, bluetooth and a better text input method than T9.
I don’t think I’d ever want an all-in-one device. With true interoperability I can switch, upgrade or mix and match components without having to replace everything. A good example of integration gone wrong is the all-in-one entertainment center. One component goes out and you’re usually in for repair costs greater than the value of a new stand-alone component.
[quote author=“jso902”]dbs: i thought you got your t68i fully functional with your tr
About 80%. Bluespace doesn’t support the voice gateway or faxmodem. Neither does it support my Jabra (or any) headset. My understanding is that, if it did, the voice channels could couple from the phone to the TR and link to the headset from there.
I get file push, vcard, serial and dialup networking. I figure there are three additional services two voice channels and fax.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m happy with it, I just want it ALL. 8)
[quote author=“tifosiv122”]Yes, but stability is key IMO for a portable device. I don’t care how advanced it is, it needs to be reliable first and foremost. I understand why they would go to PPC, but I can forsee many many problems with the device and its ultimate failure. And, btw, I agree…no phone, no purchase for me as well.
That’s not my experience. In my use of a Clie NZ90 for over a year, I’d say was about as stable as a PPC. I used to really drive that thing hard. Most of the time I was on the Net with Netfront 3 while connected to my phone via BT and listening to MP3s from the memory stick in the background. If you just need it for contacts and a datebook, PalmOS is rock-solid. If you need to do something more complex, it gets dicey.
[quote author=“Drachen”][quote author=“tifosiv122”]Yes, but stability is key IMO for a portable device. I don’t care how advanced it is, it needs to be reliable first and foremost. I understand why they would go to PPC, but I can forsee many many problems with the device and its ultimate failure. And, btw, I agree…no phone, no purchase for me as well.
That’s not my experience. In my use of a Clie NZ90 for over a year, I’d say was about as stable as a PPC. I used to really drive that thing hard. Most of the time I was on the Net with Netfront 3 while connected to my phone via BT and listening to MP3s from the memory stick in the background. If you just need it for contacts and a datebook, PalmOS is rock-solid. If you need to do something more complex, it gets dicey.
PPC is far from stable IMO. Clies were always more stable then PPC, but for palm devices, it was always the least stable of the bunch.
I agree, PPCs aren’t that stable. My point is that when you try to make a Palm do what a PPC does, you end up with a device that inherits the same sort of stability problems. The same thing is happening to cell phones.
